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Solar Roof/Canopy

The Truth About Solar Tops!
 

Skylar-EV Solar Top Accessory

Skylar-EV does offer a Solar Canopy upgrade for many of our vehicle models and would be happy help you with your decision making on the subject and if you have questions on the topic here is a great place to perhaps find your answers.

There are allot of questions around the use of a solar top in today's green vehicle markets that seem to receive mixed answers. We hope the following Q&A will assist you in your decision about the use of a solar top on your golf or utility vehicle.

1. Why does it make sense to use a solar top?

2. What area's of North America are best for a solar roof?

3. Can you charge a vehicle fully with a solar top never having to plug it in?

4. What are the best weather conditions for using a solar top?

5. Can you use a solar top in winter time?

6. How does it make financial sense to purchase a solar top?

7. What type of duty cycle makes sense for a solar top?

8. How should a solar top be protected and why?

9. Should a solar top be angled or flat?

10. Do you still need a charger if you have a solar top?

11. What should one consider before purchasing a solar roof for an electric vehicle?

12. Is solar power good for batteries?

13. Golf course fleets; Do solar tops make sense?


 

Q: Why does it make sense to use a solar top?

A: Depending on where you use it and how often you use the vehicle it can significantly increase the amount of drive time you can get out of a single "on grid" charge. A solar top basically is a charge on the fly device but can only produce a fraction of the electricity that can come out of the grid. So as the daylight hits the panel it creates a small amount of amps that go back into the battery pack but it should be realized that even a basic golf car uses battery energy faster than a solar panel can generate energy to put back into the batteries. There fore the duty cycle of the vehicle is very important to consider when evaluating potential use of solar canopy tops on a golf car or utility vehicle.

 

Q: What area's of North America are best for a solar roof?

A: This is a very difficult question. There are 2 considerations for solar power generation. The amount of sunlight exposure in a day and the temperature at which a solar panel is receiving that sunlight. So in tropical area's where there is no winter there is generally allot of daily exposure to sunlight but at higher temperatures so that type of area is great for amount of available "power generation time". However, in area's such as Canada there is certainly less daily sunlight exposure time but it is at a cooler temperature in comparison therefore the speed of which the "power is generated" is increased from the cool temperature! This is typically overlooked in the electric vehicle market. The fact is that solar energy is produced faster at cooler temperatures than at warmer temperatures assuming the light exposure is the same in both scenarios. Therefore, it is probable that in the month of January for a solar top in Southern Ontario, Canada to produce more energy than one in Orlando, Florida assuming both panels were of the same size and technology and were left in the same amount of sunlight for the same amount of time! Canada is actually a very good climate for solar power production.

 

Q: Can you charge a vehicle fully with a solar top never having to plug it in?

A: The short answer is no from a logical approach but technically yes from theoretical approach. Basically it would take about 3 to 4 good sunlight days in a row to charge a 48V vehicle up from discharge as long as it is not used on those days. Practically the investment in a solar top would not make sense if the vehicle was only being used every 3 days because the payback time to cover the cost of the top would never attainable! But in theory yes it can be done.

 

Q: What are the best weather conditions for using a solar top?

A: Believe it or not a nice cool sunny January day in winter is perfect. In other words a sunny day at approximately -15 C (5 F) will produce energy at an optimal rate for a solar top. So cooler temperature means faster production as long as the sun is available. Even an overcast day in the cool weather will produce a respectable amount of solar power!

 

Q: Can you use a solar top in winter time?

A: Yes and the heat from the energy being created will melt snow on the roof depending on the amount of snowfall and the angle of the top! The angle of the top is discussed further down.

 

Q: How does it make financial sense to purchase a solar top?

A: Current market values of solar technology makes it is hard to justify the cost. The best possible way to financially justify solar energy to charge an electric vehicle is not by having a solar roof on the vehicle itself but rather by plugging the vehicle into a receptacle that draws it's power from solar created energy if that is available. The reality is that in order to match the same amount of power required for a charger to charge even a golf cart it would take a solar roof about 12ft x 20ft in dimension or larger! Therefore the current solar technology cannot charge a battery pack in the same time that a proper charger could.

 

Q: What type of duty cycle makes sense for a solar top?

A: For more on duty cycle click here. The best generally described duty cycle for a solar canopy top on an electric utility vehicle is when the vehicle's use is always outdoors, and the vehicle will be parked intermittently in an open area (for example not in the bush or forested area) most of the time assuring the sun can fully cover the solar panel. This simply insures that the solar canopy is in the sunlight more often than not. In saying this be aware that a solar canopy does not work at it's peak unless ALL of the solar panel is exposed to sunlight. Even if only 10% of the solar panel is in the shade or covered by leaves it may equate to the panel only working at 30 to 50% capacity. This is greatly understood by many. Being used on a farm is generally an ideal application for a solar roof. In such an application you may not need to plug the charger in for many days consecutively.

 

Q. How should a solar top be protected and why?

A: A solar top should be protected by tempered glass. There are many reasons for this. Consider what vehicle drive thru sometimes, branches, hale, heavy rain, sap from leaves, other types of granular or gritty debris. The tempered glass resists all of this and protects your investment in a solar top. Scratching the working surface of a solar module can drastically reduce it's operating efficiency. All solar cells need to work together within a solar panels rated voltage and if they can't they become very inefficient. The scratches from branches or running water channels from rain can damage a solar panels working surface greatly. BEWARE of peel and stick solar panels for these reasons.

 

Q: Should a solar top be angled or flat?

A: The best is for a solar top to have just a slight angle for rain or snow to run off. The snow will melt and needs to go somewhere as the rain needs to run off somewhere. The trick here is the angle should still be able to accommodate receiving good sunlight contact even when the vehicle is in the position where the angle is in the opposite direction of the sun.

 

Q: Do you still need a charger if you have a solar top?

A: Yes. The odds of you always being able to get enough sunlight to keep the batteries charged for your duty cycle is extremely rare. You will be able to go longer between full charges yes. This is where the cost is calculated. How much money will you save by not having to plug into the grid for charging and how often. Typically if you never have to plug the vehicle in then you probably do not need a utility vehicle at all really.

 

Q: What should one consider before purchasing a solar roof for an electric vehicle?

A: Consider what you are trying to accomplish by having one.

If the idea is to save money then it is probably not a good investment at the current market costing conditions. Using the charger to charge the vehicle from an outlet that is powered by solar or wind power makes sense in this case.

If the idea is to portray an image for lateral reasons then it may make good sense. A business for example. A housing contractor that builds smart homes that run off of solar or wind power may have a model home in place for a few years or do allot of outdoor trade shows. A solar top would certainly portray and send a positive message about that business in this scenario.

In some cases people find it rewarding to help the earth as much as possible. Hats off to those people who do and that in itself is a very strong reason to have a solar top/canopy.

 

Q: Is solar power good for batteries?

A: Absolutely. Solar power from a solar panel module is like trickle charging for lead acid batteries. A trickle charge is a gentle way of charging lead acid batteries but it takes a very long time to fully charge lead acid deep cycle batteries. When lead acid batteries do start to get old and tired it is partly because (assuming they are being maintained properly) they can only handle bulk phase charging so many times which is why battery manufacturers do have an estimated rating of charge cycles that their batteries can withstand.

 

Q: Golf course fleets; Do solar tops make sense?

A: As stated above. The best money spent on solar at a golf course regarding golf course fleets is to spend the money on a solar or wind powered system to capture natural power for use to charge golf cars when required. Outlets that the chargers plug into should run off of this captured power. Why? It is all math.

Example: A fleet of 50 golf cars at a golf course.

Average price of a 48V solar top system installed on each car is approximately $1400 (this includes charge/controller for the solar module). Equate. 50 golf cars X $1400. = $70,000.00

The average golf car fleet lease is 3 years so this $70,000/3 = $23.333.00 annual cost for the 50 fleet solar tops per annum based on a 3 year term lease.

Before comparing the money spent per year by a golf course on charging a fleet of golf cars one must establish what the portion of a golf courses energy bill, (the average cost per kw/h will need to be determined in your area), is spent on charging the golf cars only. If it is less than the $23,333. cost for the solar tops per annum in this example then there is no financial gain. If it is more than the $23,333. in this example there may be some gain or savings but there are peripheral costs to consider as well.

On average how many golf car canopies need replacement from damage at the particular golf course per year? Factor this number into the annual cost of solar tops. Any golf course will tell you that this is a realistic cost of doing business at some golf courses and the fact of the matter is that a good solar top will have tempered glass protecting the active module and when this glass breaks it will cut into the active panel and create serious damage rendering it potentially ineffective.

The real comparison should be the example of costs mentioned above compared to what it would cost for a golf course to have a solar, wind or combination of, installed on the golf course and power charging outlets from that with a relative rotation of charging for the fleet of golf cars (i.e. for a fleet of 60 golf cars, charge 30 each on days 1,2 and 3 allowing the stored energy to build back up each day). With this scenario there may also be the opportunity to sell energy back into the grid that the golf course does not need. Ontario does have such a plan.

There are golf car electric drive systems that are made to be much more efficient than what is commonly used in the market. Skylar-EV has a golf car available that can get 3 to 5, 18 hole rounds of golf in on a single charge. Such a system may only cost approximately $300 to $400 more per golf car vs. a $1400. solar canopy. Coupled with the solar, wind or combination of both and the correct rotation of charging days for the fleet of golf cars you may only have to charge your golf cars 2 to 3 times per week and never have to worry about damage to the top of the golf car while enjoying the savings for much longer than the 3 year lease of the golf cars!

Now that makes financial sense!

Image may also be a way to justify the cost of a fleet of solar top golf cars by effectively creating lateral reasons that may benefit a golf course or municipality. Sometimes these lateral reasons are worth it more so than the financial costs directly related to the upgrade!